Saturday, April 30, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Shannon's Vlog

 With my voice being well enough to do videos again, I'll try and make some sort of plush video where Shannon does a vlog at the meetup. But cough wise, I've gotten a little better. Still got a little cough here and there, but not as bad as a week ago where I was so congested that I'd be gagging up- ok I'll stop there. 


PS: Flea market funds are $25. KA-CHING! 

Question of the day.... 

Friday, April 29, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: BIG News

 My Godmother will be flying in next month to visit us! She was on the phone with my mom last night and said she was planning to fly in on 5\18. And you know what THAT means! 

So dad plans on working on his shelf project tomorrow prior to the local meetup. Which will give me plenty of time to work on projects of my own! And then on Sunday, we have the flea market (yes, the people over at food pantry are aware that we won't be able to work on the first Sunday of the month until November). Planning on making a vlog for my LPS channel when we venture out on Sunday. 

Oh yeah, and I also plan on getting this Alan hoodie. 

Currently on sale for $22 plus shipping. 


Animal Jam is giving out 2 weeks worth of FREE MEMBERSHIP on Monday! You just have to enter a code to get the membership plus more extra goodies!

Thursday, April 28, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Urgent Care

 Mom threw her back out yesterday afternoon, which led her mom to take her to the urgent care. So what does one rational autistic adult do in this situation? If you guessed "panic" then yes, you are correct. So I spent an hour internally freaking out while playing some LOZ: BOTW (Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild) whilst I wait for dad to come home.


Actual conversation when he got home


Dad: And how are you?


Me: About ready to shoot myself in the head, what about you?


Ah never a dull moment with our family. Let's just hope weekend plans aren't thrown out the window. 

Just enjoy this frame from my trailer...

UPDATE: Just a little something to add to my wardrobe for when the winter season rolls around once again. 

I'd preferably like this in black.

Wednesday, April 27, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Back To Work

 Dad is officially back at work as of today. Will need to adapt since we've all been stuck at home for the past week and a half. And to keep me busy, I'll be working on a trailer for an episode of my long running animated series "Life in Animal Crossing." 


The basic plot of this episode is that my OC and her friends are facing a CHEESE shortage and need to find the thief. The answer....Isn't all that shocking. At least after the week my dad and I have had, but maybe my over a thousand subs will be shocked. Or not. 

Will be needing this for the episode too! (They have the "mystery" character in their TTS options).
ITS ANIMATION TIME!


It has been finished!!!

Tuesday, April 26, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: A SPEEDY RECOVERY!

 Went from a coughing, gagging mess to less coughing and well...Basically getting better. The weekend is looking bright for us! Dad can build his shelves on Saturday (before the meetup that same evening. Mom offered to take me that night if dad wasn't feeling up to it). And Sunday is the flea market. Gonna consider doing a little "vlog" of sorts that day. 


To put it short: Dad and I have been busy doing Smiling Friends stuff while out sick and are hoping to get to see Sonic 2 next weekend. 


Monday, April 25, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: So, Its Come to THIS

Made a trip to the doctor's office this afternoon. My oxygen was a little low apparently, but it wasn't dangerously low by any means, so that's a relief. 


Grandma gifted me a DVD copy of "Encanto" yesterday (which dad and I are watching right now as I'm typing this). All the while we draw a collage of different cartoon characters (ranging from Cyberchase to Smiling Friends). Including a series of sketches of Alan on a sick day, in the hands of "Dr. Glep." 

Will upload more of these soon.

Sunday, April 24, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Sunday Slump

 Dad is in the process of downloading the Smiling Friends episodes for me. Maybe a watch party is in order after we finish binging Cyberchase? 


That and I need to work on my Smiling Friends crossover animation "The Cheese Thief."

Brendon officially has some stiff competition.

Saturday, April 23, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Smiling Friends!

 Well. I've officially watched Smiling Friends! Well...MOST of it at least. Episodes 4-6 are BLOCKED on the Adult Swim website unless you have some sort of cable provider to connect to the site. So Stagma TV must SAVE THE DAY again. Other than that, the rest of the episodes were hilarious! Even dad was impressed by it all! 

This being one of our favorite moments from the show!


Will try and download the missing three episodes later. 

Now to tend to some business of my own...

Friday, April 22, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Goin' Down.

 Well, our fevers have gone down! But dad and I have been stuck with these deep, "bark-like" coughs since yesterday. I've had a couple of these in past sick days, so its nothing out of the ordinary. This is likely because dad and I have been coughing so much that our throats are dry, hence the bark. 


Some random photos of Mimi from last night. 

Mom wound up not making it to the store yesterday as it was raining out and was waiting for a phone call. So she'll be heading out today. Leaving dad and I to binge some Simpso- wait... We finished season 3 yesterday.... Ok, time for plan B. 


Thursday, April 21, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Fun Weekend Plans Flushed Down the Shitter.

 Don't worry, dear viewers. Our Sonic 2 review will come eventually. Once dad and I overcome this damned bug. I still have yet to recover my voice without sounding like Patty and Selma from The Simpsons. Good thing is this will give me a chance to save up for an online purchase I've been trying to save up for. 

Some drawings my dad made yesterday.

Wednesday, April 20, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Mariel and the Kink Factory

 Dad caught the bug too last night, so its safe to say all three of us are gonna be OOC for a while. (Don't worry, folks. I'm still doing these blog posts with my dad). 


So mom and I had some quality time together yesterday while dad was working (and visiting friends later that night). But we wound up watching not one, but TWO movies. 


Those being the Willy Wonka movies (1971 and 2005). 

My mom personally prefers this one since she grew up with it as a child. And this was actually a...Decent adaptation of the original book. The acting was good, so on and so fourth. I mean, you've got Gene Wilder playing Mr. Wonka! He definitely nailed the role in this movie as did most of the other actors. 


I was introduced to this adaptation once when my mom and I were house sitting for our nextdoor neighbors back in the day (I was around 6 years old then). I was one of those kids that would snoop around EVERYTHING. Like what was in the drawers or cabinets, etc. But I then stumbled upon a VHS tape of this movie, my mom saw what I found and suggested we borrow it from them while they were out. Being reluctant, I agreed and we went home a while later. Of course, this movie totally won me over. And would then start a VERY problematic issue with me.


See, I was always in awe about how they did the scene where Violet turns into a blueberry. I would rewatch that clip and try to figure out how it was done. I was desperate to crack the code, but to no avail. (Wouldn't find this out until a decade later). 


Why would I consider this "problematic?" 


Well, its because the fates of Violet and Augustus (mostly Violet) have been completely fetishized online, often mistaking my curiosity for being a part of said fetish. So I usually don't bring up my behind the scenes interest that often. 


And next, the Tim Burton adaptation. 

This is my favorite of the two, mostly because of how everything was designed in terms of sets, wardrobes, casting, etc. Johnny Depp did a really good job playing Mr. Wonka in this film, as well as the audience getting a deeper dive into Wonka's childhood before he opened the factory. 


And you KNOW this is a Tim Burton movie when everything are so heavily detailed. Like, take the set for the chocolate factory for example. That thing is basically drug trip city! And the fates of each child was turned up times 100! Fun fact: When planning Violet's scene. Tim was originally gonna use one of those chub suits like in the 70s adaptation, but he didn't like how it turned out and went to full CGI. HOW COOL IS THAT! (This was once again, another part of my overwhelming interest in behind the scenes work). 


Today in our cinema, A Tree Grows In Brooklyn. 

Tuesday, April 19, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Jell-o?

 Came down with a bug last night. I probably got it from my mom since she was also sick over the weekend. We all had plans to go to one of my favorite diners this evening, but I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon.

Dad? Could you do me a favor and bring home some Jell-o cups on the way home from work today? 


Sure!  What kind? Cherry? Strawberry? Orange?  LMK!

You have no idea what a big deal this gif was back in the 90s!



Monday, April 18, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Gotta Go FAST!

 Welp, after a few months on hiatus, my dad and I are making our way back to the cinemas once again! 

Expect a review after we return from the cinemas on Saturday.

Plus I will need to make a pit stop at Build A Bear on the way over since I got some "skins" for Easter. I'll make sure not to get any popcorn butter and salt on them, which I won't. Mom and I are already making jokes about how Mimi would fit in the bucket of popcorn. 

On a side note, I'm supposed to have Vizorr come over for pizza and ice cream (and filming too). But we have yet to hear from them. The mom told me they had a doctor's appointment at 10:00 am and planned on coming over at 1:00 pm or later. So fingers crossed that goes well. 

I understand that we have confirmation that Vizorr & company are a "go" for today! I repeat, Vizorr & company are a "go" for today.  Have a great time, guys!

In other news, I can't even look at any more Polish food today.  That is all

Sunday, April 17, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Happy Bunny Day!

 Just gonna spend the day binging on sponge candy and working on projects for my LPS channel (just hit 16 subs babyyyyyyy!) 


Two big projects on my to do list:

1) Episode 16 of LPS Beswitched 

2) testing out my new lion to see if it works. If not, my dad's friend has a little side project. 


So yeah, Happy Easter (or as I call it, Bunny Day). 

Saturday, April 16, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: The Slump

 I've been feelin down the past few days. It mostly stems from one of my famous slumps (with Gilbert Gottfried's death contributing). Now I can already hear the Karens saying things like, "oh he was just a celebrity." No. Gilbert wasn't JUST a celebrity, but a celebrity that meant a great deal to mine (and many other's) childhoods.

I mean...At least his death brought back my fixation on Cyberchase!

But no worries, I'll just tough it out like every other depressed human being on this crummy planet. 


So the morning started off smoothly, watched some Simpsons with my dad while we ate breakfast. Just as I get to my cup of hot cocoa (I have 1 cup every morning with some meds mixed in it). Take a sip... The cocoa tasted a little too sweet. So I look over at my dad.


M: Did you mix this in all the way?


Dad: I thought I did *he then takes the mug out of my hands and starts mixing it with a spoon he grabbed from the kitchen*.


Some mixing later and, while the cocoa was still pretty sweet for my taste, I drank it anyway. Now I'm making plans to run an errand with my dad. Basically he needs to get an Easter card for mom, and thought today would be perfect to grab one while she was at work. 


M: You know, I've been wanting to go to the Goodwill lately. Maybe we could go after you get the card?


Dad: Wait. Is the City Mission (local thriftstore) open on Saturday?


M: *realizes today is Saturday* Oh. Yeah it is. 


In short. Our plan is:


1) Go to Walgreens to grab Easter card

2) Stop at City Mission in the same plaza

3) Goodwill.


And for dinner? BURGER KING! 

Do burgers come from SWOODEN?!

Update: Spent a total of $12 on my thrifting ventures. While at City Mission, I suggested we also go to Amvets (another local chain in our neck of the woods). And since it was just up the street from where we were, off on our merry way we went. FYI, I didn't find anything at City Mission. I normally don't have luck there to begin with. 

Amvets finds

Right as I walk in, I spot this big orange puffball. No price tag to be spotted, but I look at its tush tag and see that its from Universal Studios Orlando!!!! Specifically their "Harry Potter" attraction. Now all I knew in terms of any cats in the franchise was the fact that one of the professors had the power to turn into a cat. (I didn't get past movie number 5). But after mom saw the cat, she told me this was one of the main character's pet cat! Who I recently found out was named "Crookshanks." 

I also found a new tail for my fursuit nights as well as some DVDS to bulk my library. 

Goodwill finds. 


Now last time I set foot in this Goodwill was in February 2020, before we all went under lockdown. And during that time, I didn't have any luck with this location 9 times out of 10. But today, I struck a couple deals. 

Now the first thing I found was simply out of guilty pleasure and for laughs. I make my way towards the plush section and WHAT DO I SEE? None other than 

Yes. This was the FIRST thing I saw. Now look, we're liberals in this household, and hate lord cheetoface with a burning passion. But seeing THIS monstrosity out in the wild was a dead score! I see my dad not too far away and I run over to him. 

M: DAD! DAD! I FOUND A TRUMPY BEAR!

Dad cringes at the sound of those two words. 

Ok, a little backstory. My dad caught wind of this commercial back in 2017, and my mom did too. Both of them thought it was a silly SNL skit, but both were proven wrong. This thing is legit and exists. And unfortunately for us, found at our local Goodwill. 

To put it short: I spend $3.50 on a Trumpy Bear just so I could live to tell the tale. Not sure where to put it other than in my closet. 

Next up was this Chantilly Lane bear (my long time friend and I own a few of these). 
Meet FANCY! (Yes. That is her name).

Like Crookshanks, she didn't have a price tag either. But man was she just too cute to leave behind. Fancy sports an outfit similar to that of "Alice in Wonderland" but with a Valentine's touch. She sings "Every Little Second." and sports a watch and necklace with the same phrase. 

So two pretty good finds for a good price.

Then my lion came in the mail this afternoon. 
More on him tomorrow!



Friday, April 15, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Mariel Has Gone MAD!

 Yep. Another one of my famous vivid dreams has come to light. Allow me to elaborate...


So the dream started off with my dad and I making plans to go to the cinema, owing to a Smiling Friends movie releasing. (NOTE: There is currently NO Smiling Friends movie from what I know). 

So we get to the cinema, I order a large bucket o popcorn and a water. (Might treat myself to a bucket next weekend when dad and I go to see Sonic 2). And let me tell ya, the guy behind the counter took his sweet old time getting my refreshments ready because it took him HALF AN HOUR! There were even other patrons waiting for their refreshments as well. We struck up a conversation with one of them and they were like "Oh yeah. This guy is SUPER slow, I dunno why the theater hasn't just fired him yet." So 30 minutes later, everybody gets their refreshments and my dad and I go to our designated showing. We blitz through the billions of trailers that play before the show, and what happens when the movie starts? I FALL ASLEEP!


Then a bunch of other random shit happens, the end. (Luckily for me, I'll be watching this "Smiling Friends" show soon). 

Thursday, April 14, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: They Forgot The Grain Of Salt

 Look, I'm totally fine with everyone having their own opinions. But sometimes the world can be full of dumbasses. 

So I made a video essay on how a Home Movies character could *possibly* be autistic. And when I fell head first into this rabbit hole, I realized very early on that the character I was writing about shared a few of the same traits that I have. 

But as always, you can't have an opinion without someone being a complete jerk about it. 

So I check my YouTube notifications on my main account. (I have a main, and LPS channel. With the main account being more successful at over 1K in subs). And I get THIS in my recent video on autism representation in Home Movies.

12ozApologist commented: "Have you ever just considered that characters can have personalities and don't have to have mental disorders to explain them"

No clue why the text went big on the comment but oh well. But I was actually gonna collaborate with this person on a REVAMPED episode a while back, but they randomly flaked out on me with no warning. But I must say I was just warming up with this essay, as I have 2 ADHD related essays coming out in October! 

Moral of the story: Remember to bring your grain of salt. 

Wednesday, April 13, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: An Outdated Source of Entertainment.

 I've been revisiting the world of VHS tapes lately. Not just for nostalgia's sake, but because there are other people online who like watching, or heck even CONVERTING digital media to these tapes! So I dug up a bunch of old tapes on Sunday, and finally got around to watching one of them. That being "Lady and the Tramp." 

Still interested in the live action version on Disney+

The tape itself played flawlessly, no bad graphics or anything. But I have other plans...

So I'll be buying a bunch of "sold as blank" tapes to bulk up my library so its not all just Kipper and Teletubbies (with some home video recordings and others thrown into the mix). Found some Adult Swim ones that I've been eyeballing for a while as well as some Simpsons tapes. So wish us luck on that!

PS: We are still looking for the Simpsons tapes. 

Speaking of.... I found a guy on Craigslist who has seasons 1-8 and is selling all of them for $25. Maybe we could contact him and ask for seasons 5-8 for let's say $20? 

This person even has the stupid Homer head case version of season 6! 





Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Non-Idiot Proof

 During my Simpsons prime (circa 2012 I'd wanna say). My dad and I went to a local library to rent out books (and go on the adult computers). One of these times, I rented out a book on "HOW TO DRAW SIMPSONS CHARACTERS!" 

My dad and I grabbed paper, pencils, and all the "important" art supplies that a 9 year old and her father would need for an art project. Yeah, "secret tips from the PROS?" I don't think so. Everything was so absurd. I even rented the same book out 2 years later, hoping that I could become more "professional" with my drawing. 

These are pretty bogus!

Yeaaaah that didn't work. But! This gave me an idea....

Using pupils to determine eyeball width?!?

How about we rent out the book and try doing a Reference VS Handbook. You should expect a lot of "Can Head Homer" drawings.

This looks to be an actual production model sheet!

What do you think????

I think, "Don't have a cow, man!"

Sad update: It is with a heavy heart to announce that the beloved voice actor, Gilbert Gottfried, has passed away at the age of 67. I will be making a tribute of sorts soon. Until then, we must bid a farewell to the world's greatest cybird... 





Monday, April 11, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Dad's Project

 Church gave dad a new project for him to work on soon. Care to elaborate?

I've been tasked with converting a choir robe cabinet into a storage space for the church's food pantry.  They'll be stocking household and personal hygiene items there.  Looks like I have to make three 82-1/2" x 30" shelves. I need to figure out the best materials and assembly method. Oh, and I suppose I could use a saw and some carpentry tools. Pfft! Minor concerns, am-I-right?

Thinking of using this for the shelves.  Or this. (Cheaper)

So my lion is supposed to ship soon, we were given a tracking number on Saturday, shortly after ordering. Can't wait for the arrival of Donny. Plus, I have a little animated project of my own with these guys. 

Here, have this video of one of my animatronics that I shot yesterday. 


Sunday, April 10, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Work Work Work = Buy Buy Buy

 What can I say? I'm a shopaholic! I word hard to earn my $20 allowance every week with doing simple house chores and the local food pantry at church. Which, by the way, I will be doing a shift with my dad today. We took off last weekend since the flea market opened for the season. I kept an open mind, but there weren't to many people there...Yet. 


Aside from food pantry, I've another project that I totally forgot about. Find my dad's old Simpsons VHS recordings! (and buy a new VCR for the living room so my mom won't have to use mine to watch her Dr. WHO VHS tapes). Found someone on Craigslist who's selling some for $20 a throw and confirmed they are all in excellent working order. Like we always say! We shall see... 


VCR Update: Our church threw in a free working VCR after we finished our shift at pantry. This gave me a chance to scramble around and find some tapes. While I have YET to find any Simpsons related cassettes, I did find some childhood movies and so forth. 

I even found an UNLABLED tape (the one in the white case). Search continues soon....

Saturday, April 9, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: D'OH!

 Mom clocked out for work 'round 8 ish. Leading me and dad to go couch potato and watch TV for a bit. Our morning started off with my brilliant idea of putting The Simpsons Movie on for us while dad heated up some tater tots for breakfast. 

Totally forgot how good this film was. Too bad I was only 3 when it released in theaters.

Got some errands to run this afternoon. First dad has to pick up and drop off some books at the library, afterwards, its off to the craft store! I won't be buying anything this time around since I'm purchasing that one singing lion I've been babbling on about. Dad is concerned that it doesn't work because the seller didn't confirm it. All the description said was "Animated singing lion batteries not included" which means it could work, they just won't include any batteries. But I'm not buying this just to see it function as intended, this is also for documentation! Since I've never seen this particular model out in the wild (pun not intended). 


Will get back to you once I've made my purchase :)


Update 1: They upped the price to $20... That'll change soon....

Update 2: Lil Donny has been ordered. 1 down, 3 to go. 

Friday, April 8, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: My Ladder To STARDOM!

As you saw in yesterday's post, one of mine and my dad's favorite YouTubers HotDiggedyDemon tweeted about how he needed a voice actress for an upcoming cartoon of his. And since I'm trying to get my name out there, I submitted a demo reel last night. And whaddya know? I got a response!

"Hey friend, thanks for wanting to help out! I'll listen to your demo and get back to you if I think you'd be a good fit!

~Max G"

As for today, my project won't be LPS related, but rather a review on the Simpson's episode "Bart Gets an F." I'll save my thoughts for the video itself....Since it won't air until October....

Until then, have one of Max G's most hilarious cartoon's yet! 

Thursday, April 7, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Getting Scrappy With It II

 While I DO have some online purchases to make in the coming weeks, dad and I will still be stopping at art stores to see what kind of scrap book paper they've got on hand. I'm more concerned about prices since my main priority at the moment is getting a Ramona Flowers plush. (I should have all the money by next week). 

Oh yeah. I'm buying this too. 

Very important to add to my collection


Your daily dose of cat. 

Let's try to hit Hobby Lobby (or Michael's) on Saturday.  I have a book to pick up at the library.

UPDATE: WON'T be buying the lion tonight! Though I will try to make an offer for $10 cuz the seller keeps lowering the price every few days. They must be really desperate to get rid of it. 

Interested?
Just submitted my DEMO REEL!

Wednesday, April 6, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: LPS PSA

 Yesterday, I filmed a 6 minute PSA about how the "charity" known as "Autism $peaks" is very abelist. I didn't dive into much detail other than the vaccine conspiracy. After that, I listed a few GOOD charites (as told by a nerodivergent support site). The PSA will be uploaded during school. 

Not from the PSA

Thinking about making a music video with my pets as promotion for my series. Maybe a little ABBA?

Also, dad. There was talk of ice cream later... (possibly). 

My mouth is already watering...

 FROSTY BAR, TAKE ME AWAAAAAAAYYY...

Tuesday, April 5, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Wait? Its Tuesday?

 Dad had to stay home from work yesterday after having to get an oil change. So it left me really confused about the date at first. But no worries, I did in fact remember that it was Tuesday. 


So mom and I had to run Mimi to the vet to get some tests done, but we were worried about the traffic build up on the way over. Looks like a job for Mr. Plow! 


Let's not forget about our possible trip back to the cinema on Saturday! (Depending on our funds)...


And this is our 300th blog post! WOOHOO!

Monday, April 4, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: Fortress Of Sleep

 Dad had to drop his car off for an oil change, leaving him with us for today. Honestly, its one of those days where I'm awake but feel like sleeping still... 


Idea for a future LPS project? 

MONORAIL!!!!!

FWIW - I hit the 400 subscriber mark!  On 4/4/22. Four. Four. 2+2 =4. 400!!!

Sunday, April 3, 2022

Daddy Daughter Days: DDDW

 What does DDDW mean? It stands for


Daddy

Daughter

Double 

Whammie


Don't expect me to use this again. 


So my dad and I are off to the flea market and local shopping mall (that has a lot of antique shops) and my two main goals are to


1) Find more animatronic lions

2) LPS... (specifically main 5 pets like great danes or collies).


UPDATE: Official haul!

Found this animated singing Tweety Bird for roughly $13. Made in 2004 by our friends at Gemmy Industries (been buying from them for AGES). This toy sings "Do You Love Me" while spouting various quotes from a range of Looney Tunes shorts. Fun fact, I actually used to have one of these, though it was made a few years later and had a different design. I might get the other model to go with this one.... We shall see. 
Ok, moving on.


Dad and I have recently stumbled back into Springfield, leading us to start watching America's favorite long running dysfunctional family, The Simpsons. Season 4 seems to be pretty good so far! My dad and I are currently on "Homer The Heretic" where Homer becomes an atheist out of the excuse of being lazy. 
Finally got my hands on a "Webkinz Next" plush. Being LGBT, I made the clever decision to name this dog "Pride Puppy" for very obvious reasons. There was another store in the shopping mall that carried some other Webkinz next plushies, where my dad and I had a very awkward exchange. (I'll have the man himself elaborate). 


I also got some LPS which will be shared via a 10 (or rather 12) subscriber special over on my LPS channel. 



Afterwards, the wonderful world of DQ! But that will be later ;) 

Until then, have this video I uploaded yesterday in honor of Autism Acceptance Month!

BTW. DQ was a success. Highly recommend getting the chicken finger basket.
Have a picture of Lil PaMimi!

Truly A Scrooge Time Of Year

 Christmas has been a lot duller at our house this year. Even though we set up the tree and many other decorations (albeit very limited cuz ...